The Spirit
of Ma’at Vol 1, No 10
with Diane Flynn Keith
by Diane M. Cooper
Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.
- William Butler Yeats
Diane
Flynn Keith has homeschooled her two sons for nine years. She is also the
Editor of HomeFires - the Journal of Homeschooling Online. She is a writer and
a popular speaker at homeschool events and conferences.
DMC:
What caused you to seek homeschooling for your children?
Diane
Keith: Basically we had exhausted all the alternatives. My oldest son, who is
now 16, went to preschool, and we assumed that we were going to go through the
school system like everyone else.
His
preschool experience was pretty good - until he went to kindergarten, which was
a team-taught class. The teachers couldn't agree on policy or education, and
they were fighting constantly. It created a really tough environment in the
classroom. Plus, it was a very structured, academic-intensive program - kind of
a prep program. And as far as I could see, this was totally inappropriate for
little kids. We then tried a Waldorf school for a year, and at that school
there was an awful lot of disruptive behavior in the classroom which the
teacher wasn't capable of handling.
My son
was miserably unhappy, and it wasn't the right educational environment for him.
So at that point I started to read as much as I could about homeschooling.
I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.
-Mark Twain
DMC: Is
there an accepted structure for homeschooling?
Diane:
I think that homeschooling comes in as many shapes and varieties as there are
people. First of all, there are many reasons people homeschool. Some come into
homeschooling for religious reasons. Some come in because they have an
educational philosophy that may not correspond with what's being taught in
public or private schools. Some come because they think they can achieve
academic excellence with a one-on-one, custom-tailored education for their
child. Gifted children and kids with learning disabilities also prosper with
individualized instruction.
There
is a huge advantage to homeschooling because the curriculum can be tailored
exactly to the child's particular needs, interests, and abilities. Many kids
learn better in a one-on-one environment where they can progress at their own
speed. You also can get rid of what doesn't work and find things that do work
easily without having to get board approval to change the curriculum. Many
people homeschool their kids because of the desocialization going on in the
public schools, and they want to provide a safer environment for their kids.
Once
you get past the reasons for homeschooling, then the methods that can be used
are just as varied. In a fundamentalist Christian homeschool, for example, you
might find a very structured, traditional format, with 45 minutes of math, 45
minutes of history, and so on. The kids might work at a desk or at the kitchen
table from nine to two, ticking off the subjects just as they would do in
public school. Packaged curriculum products that can be purchased through a
distributor might also be used.
For those who stubbornly seek freedom, there can be no more urgent
task than to come to understand the mechanisms and practices of indoctrination.
These are easy to perceive in the totalitarian societies, much less so in the
system of 'brainwashing under freedom' to which we are subjected and which all
too often we serve as willing or unwilling instruments.
-Noam Chomsky
The
other end of the spectrum is what is called ''unschooling.'' There is a guy
named John Holt who was a teacher, and in the 1970s, after teaching kids for a
long time, he came to the belief that to take children and sit them down in the
classroom all day with a textbook that was totally irrelevant to their lives or
interests was psychopathic. After viewing children for many years, he felt and
saw that kids really are all about learning. If you just follow their lead and
facilitate the subjects that they are interested in, you will most likely cover
everything that would normally be covered in a classroom situation. He coined
the term ''unschooling.'' He started the ''Growing Without School'' movement,
and now there is a magazine on the subject (see Growing Without Schooling, Holt
Associates).
Holt
died in 1985, but the movement continues.
So here
you have these two ends of the spectrum. One is going to follow the interests
of the child and realize that children naturally learn everything they need to
know to be literate. On the other end, you'll find someone who is following the
traditional school model.
Most
homeschoolers will fall somewhere in between. We call them ''eclectic.'' They
might use a textbook to teach math, but they also might read historical fiction
to their kids in order to cover history. They might hire a scientist or an
engineer to come in to teach a science class, or they might exchange with
another homeschooling parent who has aptitude in writing or languages. They
will create all kinds of opportunities for their kids to learn. They may learn
very traditional subjects in non-traditional ways.
DMC:
What are the most important things a parent must have in order to homeschool?
Diane:
I think there are three very important things. First, you've really got to love
your kids and enjoy being around them and believe that teaching them is a
really good idea. Second, You've got to trust in your own ability to find the
materials that your child needs in order to explore subjects until they are
completely satisfied. And three, you've got to trust that your child will
learn.
DMC:
I've read that if you provide kids with opportunities to learn, they will
gravitate toward the process naturally.
Diane:
They do, all the time. Successful homeschooling parents will take many
interesting items and sprinkle them around their house, anticipating that their
child might pick them up out of curiosity. I do that. I might leave a science
kit lying on the table in the living room. I might put Discover magazine in the
bathroom, or a novel in the family room, or I might put out an educational
game. Everything springboards you to some subject.
I
actually do a workshop for parents where I take a bag of M&Ms and show how
someone can cover every subject in school by exploring what's on the outside
and inside of a bag of M&Ms. Everything in life is a learning opportunity.
DMC:
Sounds magical in comparison to traditional schooling.
Diane:
It is remarkable. But you have to understand when your child gets to a certain
age their education will look nothing like a public school education. They may
have covered all the subjects but not in the traditional way. Perhaps they
never studied the Renaissance period but they may have spent three years studying
Egypt. Is that any less valuable than traditional history? In traditional
school you never get an opportunity to spend as much time as you want on
subjects that you are most interested in and for which you might have a natural
talent. If you have children who have been allowed to explore as much as they
desire, their overall knowledge of the world is going to look different than
that of kids who are schooled in the traditional way, where you are required to
study it all whether you are good at it or not.
For
some people who wouldn't understand how to create a really rich learning
environment, perhaps homeschooling wouldn't be the right choice for them.
Homeschooling is more for people who get that just by exposure alone you can
introduce incredible topics that kids can grab hold of and explore to their
hearts content.
DMC:
When I think of putting myself in the position of finding education for my
child, I certainly wouldn't pick traditional schooling. But I would also have
to consider what seems to be an incredible commitment far beyond motherhood
when you choose to homeschool.
Diane:
Most people think that way. But I put motherhood and education in the same
camp. It is an incredible commitment to make the choice to have a child in the
first place. Parenting to me is about providing a really rich and safe
environment to nurture the child's interests and needs and abilities. If your
goal is to raise a human being who is responsible, caring, enthusiastic, and
informed, and provide an environment that reinforces those attributes,
homeschooling can become a part of the parenting process. It's a real
integration of home, family, work, learning, and play. It actually comes very
naturally for people if they would just allow the process to happen.
The
problem is that our society more and more pulls families apart. Dad's off
working, Mom's off working, and the kids are shipped off to daycare and
schools. So the family members never have an opportunity to get together for
extended periods of time - to get to know one another, to work together and
play together. The bonding process that occurs within the family when they go
through this thing called homeschooling is just remarkable. There is incredible
good will that is established between the family members toward one another,
and the environment is just so healthy, happy, and rich. The incredible
relationships between family members is really the long-term benefit of
homeschooling, as far as I'm concerned.
My grandmother wanted me to have an education, so she kept me out
of school.
-Margaret Mead
DMC:
Who decides what the children learn?
Diane:
I think the children do, ultimately. I think parents should not think of
themselves as ''the sage on the stage,'' but ''the guide by the side.'' Instead
of trying to fill these little people up with information that you think they
should have, if you just watch and listen and expose them to a lot, you'll
begin to see little flames of interest. It is your job as a facilitator to fan
the flames. They may burn really bright or they may come in short bursts. The
flame of interest could last three days or three years, or it might even last
forever. But that is the child's choice, ultimately.
DMC:
Tell me how you began the process of homeschooling with your children.
Diane:
I started out with packaged curriculum because I was trying to follow the model
in which I had been raised. I went to a private Catholic school most of my
life, so I was really being preped for college. I assumed that my kids would go
the same route. I bought packaged curriculum products - and after a little
while, they refused to go along with the program.
I was
talking to a friend who had been through something similar, and she told me
that all she did at first was read to her child. By reading to her, they
covered history, because she chose historical fiction. Her daughter learned to
read. Her vocabulary improved because Mom was using big words and pointing them
out in the book and explaining what they meant. She told me that she didn't think
it was a bad year to spend your time reading to your children and see where it
takes you. Books springboard you to many different subjects!
So I
took her advice and I read to my kids, sometimes as much as six hours a day.
They might play with Leggos or clay or whatever they were doing, and I'd read.
We'd read all the stories they wanted to read, and sometimes we'd read them
three or four times. When I wanted to introduce them to something a little more
rich, they learned to negotiate. We read stories about dinosaurs, and it just
so happened that an exhibition came to town that had robotic dinosaurs. That
lead us to the museum that had rocks, and my kids got interested in archeology
and digging for sharks' teeth. I read them a Hardy Boys mystery, and in the
story a metal detector was used - so we got a metal detector.
Using
the metal detector, we ended up finding an unusual coin at the beach. So we
took it to a coin collector's shop. The owner, when he saw how interested my
kids were in coins, locked the door of his shop, opened his vault, and spent
the next three hours teaching my kids about the history of coins. Because he
also had precious stones, one of my sons got interested in famous jewels. That
eventually led to a trip to the Smithsonian to see the Hope Diamond. At the
Smithsonian, he saw moon rocks, and that led to a real exploration of space and
astronomy. That interest has really carried forward to this day, as he is very
interested in astronomy and flight. He is just getting his solo pilot's license
in about two weeks. He plans to get his private pilot's license in about a
year.
DMC:
How old is he?
Diane:
Sixteen.
Set me a task in which I can put something of my very self, and it
is a task no longer; it is joy; it is art.
- Bliss Carman
DMC:
What about the younger son - he was completely homeschooled, right?
Diane:
Actually, he tried kindergarten for about a month and a half. But the teacher
thought he was too precocious. He was a spontaneous reader. He taught himself
to read at four years old. We didn't do phonics programs with him - he just got
it. So because of that, he went into the classroom and he could pick up the
fairytales and just read them. The teacher said he was disruptive to the
classroom because he would read to the other kids, and that he had too much
information for a child that age. As if I had control of that! She just didn't
know what to do with a child like this.
This
was supposed to be an alternative school, accepting of individual differences.
I saw we were going to have problems all along the way, so I chose to keep him
home and let him learn at the pace he was comfortable with. He refers to
himself as a kindergarten dropout.
This
kid really loves nature. We read nature story after nature story. He raised
hamsters and rabbits, chinchillas and iguana, cats and dogs. He reads all kinds
of survival stories and he's turning into a wilderness expert. He can build
shelters, start a fire from scratch, trap animals if needed to survive. He got
into ornithology and is fascinated with raptors. He is studying to take his
falconer exam in the next month or two. Just today he got accepted to a program
as a docent in a zoo in San Jose, so he'll be teaching other kids about the
animals in the zoo. He also will be a camp counselor for their summer program.
DMC:
...and he's only fourteen?
Diane:
He's only fourteen. And reading was the start of it all.
DMC:
You mention in your website that there are ''legal'' ways to start
homeschooling. What are those ways?
Diane:
In the United States, homeschooling is legal in all 50 states. However, the way
you can homeschool differs. Some states recognize the parents' right to educate
their children and the parents have to do very little in terms of recordkeeping
and getting approval from the state to do what they want to do. California is
one of the states that offers parents a very unrestricted method of
homeschooling.
In
other states, you can only homeschool through the public schools, which then
offer home study programs. Essentially what that means is that the school finds
a facilitator for each family, usually a certified teacher who oversees the
curriculum. They help the family develop a course of study. They might provide
resources and materials for a family to use. In some states they might insist
on testing each year, and as long as the kids are meeting the bare measure of
academic literacy they are allowed to continue to homeschool.
In some
states, families can establish their homes as private schools which are then
operated exactly in the same manner as any private school, except the only
children enrolled in the school are your own.
DMC:
Does that handle the state's compulsory attendance laws?
Diane:
In California they don't have a law that addresses homeschooling, but private
school teachers do not have to have a valid teaching credential. So I put the
state on notice that I had established a private school, and enrolled two
students.
DMC:
How is the high school diploma handled?
Diane:
Everyone thinks that you have to have a diploma to go to college, but you
don't. A candidate becomes eligible by passing the interview process, having
decent SAT scores, and, through a documented portfolio, being able to give the
college an idea of what he or she has been involved in. Some colleges now
require that homeschooled students also take SAT II tests to determine
proficiency in various subjects like English and Math. Or the whole testing
process can be bypassed by going to community colleges for two years and then
transferring to a college or university.
If you
have established your home as a private school, you can create transcripts for
your student to satisfy that requirement. Also, many colleges have adapted
their admissions procedures to accommodate homeschoolers who don't have typical
transcripts. The best advice is to contact the college of choice and find out
exactly what their admissions procedures and requirements are for the
homeschooled student.
Many
colleges actively recruit homeschooled students because such students usually
have a very good idea of what they are interested in studying - also, the
colleges see these kids as very self-motivated. It's exactly what they want on
their campuses.
DMC:
What are the challenges that the kids and parents face when they begin
homeschooling?
Diane:
If they start from birth, they don't have the same kinds of challenges that
people do with kids who have been in traditional school for a while.
The
rule of thumb is this: For every year a child has been in traditional school,
you need to allow at least one month of deprogramming time when you bring them
home to homeschool. If they've been in pre-school, you have to double the time.
DMC:
Why ''double the time''?
Diane:
Because they are so moldable at the pre-school age. If they are taught how to
stand in a row, told what to do, where to do, when to do, how to do, for an
extended period of time, they need a lot of time to deprogram to a point where
natural curiosity guides them to what they want to do. Some kids need a full
year to just sit around and do nothing academically. This usually freaks
parents out. But during this time, what you do is expose them to the bounty of
life. You take them on field trips. You read together, you do fun projects together,
you do art. Sometimes these kids just need time to sit and think, or they need
solitude, because they have been constantly under surveillance by teachers -
graded and typecast. They need to break the mold and rediscover their own
innate talent to learn, which they will if they are given enough time and
parents just trust that process.
Trusting
is often difficult for people coming into homeschooling - particularly for
parents. But if they give their children that time, they will be successful.
DMC: If
a parent is seriously considering homeschooling, what are the first steps?
Diane:
First, find out the legal aspects for homeschooling in your particular
location. Once you know homeschooling is legal, then the next thing is to read
about how other people homeschool. Look at the different homeschooling methods
and figure out your personal educational philosophy. This will be your
plumbline and will guide you into a curriculum. It also will help you choose
activities, and determine how you and your children are going to spend the day.
Your personal educational philosophy will guide you forever through
homeschooling.
Also,
it is important to get connected with other homeschoolers. Attend homeschooling
conferences where you can hear speakers, go to workshops, and meet other
homeschoolers. Also, homeschool support groups are available in every state,
and homeschool e-lists give support online. It's good to surround yourself with
like-minded people who will encourage you and share resources.
DMC:
How do you know that you are a successful homeschooler?
Diane:
Gosh, you're with your children so much that you have a really clear idea of
where they are and how they are doing. Keep a journal, and at the end of every
week, just write down the things you did with your kids. This serves as
documentation of what you've accomplished with them, and its a nice record to
have for yourself and your children.
You can
also tell you're successful because others will tell you that your kids are
really remarkable. That kind of feedback gives you acknowledgment and affirms
that what you are doing is the right choice.
But
mainly, you'll know because these kids are remarkably happy. What have they got
to be angry about? They spend their days exploring things they really love.
They are surrounded by people who really love them and respect them and are
trying to help them be the best that they can be. The result is that you have
happy, well-adjusted, literate, talented kids. Most homeschoolers fit into that
category. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule, but the majority of the
families I've met have capable, happy kids.
Our greatest natural resource is the minds of our children.
- Walt Disney
To
contact Diane Flynn Keith and the Journal of Homeschooling, go to
www.homefires.com.